# October 2023 Meeting of the NGO/Government Roundtable on Embodied Carbon

**URL:** <https://community.carbonleadershipforum.org/t/october-2023-meeting-of-the-ngo-government-roundtable-on-embodied-carbon/7254>\
**Category:** Roundtable: NGO/Government Alignment\
**Created:** [October 13, 2023, 9:46pm UTC](https://community.carbonleadershipforum.org/t/october-2023-meeting-of-the-ngo-government-roundtable-on-embodied-carbon/7254 "2023-10-13T21:46:54Z")\
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CLF’s **[Embodied Carbon Roundtable](https://carbonleadershipforum.org/ngo-roundtable/)** has the following objectives:

- Share news, strategic plans, resources, and tools related to embodied carbon.
- Report planning and future dates for conferences, webinars, and meetings.
- Inspire and facilitate ongoing communication and conversation among key leaders related to embodied carbon.
- Encourage convergence on shared embodied carbon terminology, data standards, benchmarks, and targets for embodied carbon reduction.

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/carbonleadershipforum/original/2X/1/196a3d0355857efa494a4a8e57f3e165b6ac699c.jpeg "October 2023 - NGO Government Roundtable on Embodied Carbon") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1aVRugg2xo)

## Presenters

- Andrew Himes — Intro and Welcome from CLF
- Kate Simonen and Michelle Lambert on the [ECHO – Embodied Carbon Harmonization and Optimization Project](https://carbonleadershipforum.org/echo-project/) — CLF
- Katie Poss — Building Transparency
- Lauren Alger – SE2050, Infa2050, STV
- Luke Leung – MEP2040
- James Kitchin - Mass Design Group
- Cecilia Wandiga - Center for Science and Technology Innovations
- Irene Dominguez - Bellona Europa
- Alex Krowka – US Energy Association
- Maura Mooney – RMI
- David Lehrer – Center for the Built Environment (CBE), UC Berkeley
- Nickson Otieno - NicoGreen

## Kate Simonen – CLF

[From the newsletter](https://carbonleadershipforum.org/civicrm/mailing/view/?id=340&reset=1):

- [EPA Grant Program](https://www.epa.gov/greenerproducts/grant-program-reducing-embodied-greenhouse-gas-emissions-construction-materials-and) – due in the new year, up to 40 grants for developing new EPDs and other EPD related resources
- [Advancing LCA Data Ecosystem](https://carbonleadershipforum.org/advancing-lca-ecosystem/) – Can help with roadmap for applying to EPA grants, where is there room for collaboration
- [ECHO – Embodied Carbon Harmonization and Optimization Project](https://carbonleadershipforum.org/echo-project/) – group of organizations that issue, host, or convene challenges and commitment programs

## Michelle Lambert – CLF

- ECHO Project Lead from CLF
- CLF is facilitating this group
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### Sign up for [news about ECHO](https://carbonleadershipforum.org/echo-project/)

## Katie Poss – Building Transparency

- ECHO Involvement
  - common reporting schema for WB carbon results and WBLCA results
  - Collected individual schemas that commitments and certifications are using, evaluated, combined, conducted 7 work groups to understand how data is collected
  - Developed a first draft of the schema, hope to have it published for public comment review in early 2024

## Lauren Alger – SE2050, Infa2050, STV

- ECHO involvement

- Infrastructure systems baselines gaps
- Project addresses the lack of aligned data in industry
- Working groups – bridges, tunnels; looking for case studies and best practices published

## Luke Leung – MEP2040

- ECHO Involvement
  - Working with national lab for PCRs for EDP development
  - LCA of the building for B4 replacement cycle, now looking at B1 reporting

## James Kitchin - Mass Design Group

- Excitement about growth of commitment and groups
- [Email](mailto:jkitchin@mass-group.org)

## Cecilia Wandiga - Center for Science and Technology Innovations

- [CSTI](https://www.csti.or.ke/web-of-science)
- UNESCO Associated scientific trust
- Chemistry perspective to climate change, looking to support industry and built environment as point of engagement
- Looking at emissions – toxicity and carbon intersection
- [Restor](https://restor.eco/?gclid=Cj0KCQjw1aOpBhCOARIsACXYv-cKzeTiy7AhxIqPOb6h7zumbD99cL5HZzA3U899C_RF5c-syoGqJT4aAkeOEALw_wcB&lat=26&lng=14.23&zoom=3)

## Irene Dominguez - Bellona Europa

- Brussels - climate policy and decarbonization
- EC work:
  - raising profile of EC in EU
  - Zero emissions construction sites, EC in products
  - Procurement and low carbon materials
  - Launching comms campaign for regional report about EC in Europe

- Europe Update
  - Energy Performance for Building Directive - Whole Life Carbon Provisions
  - Whole Life Carbon Roadmap

## Alex Krowka – US Energy Association

- Cooperative agreement with US DOE – Domestic and international consensus on needs or carbon management technology
- Program: Utilization Procurement Grants Program
  - Funding state and local governments, public agencies and utilities, procurement that uses carbon oxides in their manufacturing processes, building materials focus
  - Subcontractors are allowed - receive funds through working with one of those agencies
  - LCA must be submitted to NETL to show that carbon oxides is lower than incumbent materials to[apply to grants](https://www.netl.doe.gov/upgrants)

- Carbon oxides in building materials - it’ll help lower the EC within the material, similar to CarbonCure
- [Email](mailto:akrowka@usea.org)

## Maura Mooney – RMI

- Advance Building Construction Collaborative
  - DOE and their Advancing Building Construction Program
  - Advancing industrialized construction methods, focus on low EC materials and decarbonization
  - Embodied Carbon Working Group for cities and states will be November 8, 9:00 am PT/ 12:00 pm ET
  - [Email](http://mmooney@rmi.org)

## David Lehrer – Center for the Built Environment (CBE), UC Berkeley

- Industry Consortium
  - 50 different companies, design professionals, manufacturers, etc…
  - Collaborate and fund work

## Nickson Otieno - NicoGreen

- Working on CLF Kenya
- [NicoGreen](https://nikogreen.com/)- think tank, developing guides, pushing embodied carbon agenda
  - Developing EPDs
  - LCA work
  - Exploring reduction of construction waste and created a reuse platform
