# October 2025 NGO/Government Roundtable on Embodied Carbon

**URL:** <https://community.carbonleadershipforum.org/t/october-2025-ngo-government-roundtable-on-embodied-carbon/9182>\
**Category:** Roundtable: NGO/Government Alignment\
**Created:** [October 14, 2025, 9:58pm UTC](https://community.carbonleadershipforum.org/t/october-2025-ngo-government-roundtable-on-embodied-carbon/9182 "2025-10-14T21:58:13Z")\
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### The NGO/Government Roundtable has the following objectives:

- Share news, strategic plans, resources, and tools related to embodied carbon.
- Report planning and future dates for conferences, webinars, and meetings.
- Inspire and facilitate ongoing communication and conversation among key leaders related to embodied carbon.
- Encourage convergence on shared embodied carbon terminology, data standards, benchmarks, and targets for embodied carbon reduction.

Should your organization be a member? Contact [Andrew Himes](mailto:andrew@carbonleadershipforum.org).

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/carbonleadershipforum/original/2X/8/80cce4c0d6f7e0e82a26d93e720d86ab6147db14.jpeg "October 2025 NGO/Government Roundtable on Embodied Carbon") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyY1CTBpAac)

### Agenda

- CLF Staff Report - Rachelle Habchi
- Julie Janiski - MEP 2040 “Beginner’s Guide to Embodied Carbon” plus Pilot Project
- Colleen Loader - Canada Green Building Council
- Mahsa Torabi - Life Cycle Lab, University of Washington
- Willy Carlsen - WRI Industry Team
- Irene Dominguez - Bellona Europa
- Victor Olgyay - RMI
- Lee Thrasher - Georgia Ready Mixed Concrete Association (GRMCA)
- Andrea Cooper - Living Future

# CLF Staff Report - Rachelle Habchi

- [Embodied Carbon Pathways to 2050 for the United States](https://carbonleadershipforum.org/embodied-carbon-pathways-to-2050-for-the-united-states/)– Collab between CLF, UW LCL, and RMI

- Aimed to address three questions

- Projected US Carbon (A1 - A3) - Business as Usual

- Target ECIs based on downscaled 1.5 °C aligned scenarios

- Scenario analysis

- Best-case scenario

- Report Findings - Strategies

- Report Findings - Policy

- Building-level embodied carbon standards (e.g., kgCO₂e/m² limits in codes)

- Financing and incentives for facility upgrades and raw material substitution

- Product-level emissions standards (e.g. Clean Product Standards, product-level GWP limits in zoning and building codes)

- Carbon pricing (e.g., cap-and-trade, border adjustments)

- Building-level standards are a key complement to industrial regulations

- Cap-and-trade systems and carbon border adjustment mechanisms provide flexible pathways for incentivizing facility changes

- Product vs. facility standards: Product emissions standards had a higher impact than facility standards due to their ability to incentivize raw material substitution (\*cement and clinker substitution)

# Julie Janiski - MEP 2040 “Beginner’s Guide to Embodied Carbon” plus Pilot Project

- MEP2040 is a movement to radically reduce total carbon emissions associated with building systems through collective action
- Published the [Beginner’s Guide to MEP Embodied Carbon](https://www.mep2040.org/guide)
  - ~ 15 co-authors – a cross-industry collaborative effort
  - A consolidated guide to performing quantity takeoffs for MEP system components, as well as US/global-based LCA phase calculation for MEP systems
  - A single whole life carbon MEP study (Wymer Hall)
  - What it’s not:
    - A comprehensive guide to measuring all MEP system components, we have purposely excluded air terminals, etc., with a thought of adhering to the Pareto principle in these early days
    - A definitive benchmark for the embodied carbon to expect for MEP systems across all buildings (try not to quote numbers or quote them in context!)

- Working on publishing results on [MEP2040 Whole Life Carbon Pilot](https://www.mep2040.org/pilot)
  - Map out whole life carbon once you include MEP systems, based on the Beginner’s Guide
  - Diverse building use represented in the case studies – be able to pull mini trends from some building use types!

- MEP has been embedded in the built environment space and in certification programs, as MEP2040 has gained traction and made an impact

# Colleen Loader - Canada Green Building Council

- Second National EC Summit - stakeholders across industries to talk about national strategy
- Potential ideas from the summit
  - Solutions from the 2024 summit, and came up with 27 solutions
  - 2025 - took top solutions to brainstorm action items – DRAFT potential ideas:
    - National wbLCA results database
    - Tool and LCI database alignment
    - Harmonized wbLCA framework
    - EC in the national code for 2030
    - Collection of costing data for low-carbon materials/design
    - Industry awareness
    - Professional knowledge and training

- Various research in Canada
  - [NRC Canada’s Low-carbon concrete materials: current and emerging technologies](https://doi.org/10.4224/40003529)(July 2025)
  - [Build More, Emit Less: Growing and Greening Canadian Construction (Oct 22, 2025)](https://transitionaccelerator.ca/webinars/build-more-emit-less-growing-and-greening-canadian-construction)[/](https://transitionaccelerator.ca/webinars/build-more-emit-less-growing-and-greening-canadian-construction/)
  - [City of Vancouver building bylaw updates, effective Sept 15, 2025](https://vancouver.ca/green-vancouver/zero-emissions-buildings.aspx#embodied-carbon)
  - [National Research Council (NRC) Canada - Platform to Decarbonize the Construction Sector at Scale](https://nrc.canada.ca/en/research-development/research-collaboration/platform-decarbonize-construction-sector-scale)

# Mahsa Torabi - Life Cycle Lab, University of Washington

- POD|LCA Project – 3 years at UW, funded by ARPA-E
- Parametric Open Data for LCA – Simplifying and supporting standardization of LCA with open source LCA tools. How do we know if a carbon-storing material is actually low-carbon?
- Target Audience:
  - Material scientists and manufacturers of novel carbon-storing materials
  - Building scale LCA tool developers and standards, unifying assumptions and supporting advanced analysis
  - Policymakers and investors who want to have accurate and fair comparisons

- Scope
  - Dynamic radiative forcing
  - Regionally specific end-of-life of biogenic products
  - Probabilistic assessment of variability and uncertainty
  - Building scale scenario explorers
  - Supporting open data ecosystems
  - Electrical grid decarbonization scenarios

- POD|LCA hierarchy (top to bottom):
  - Web tools: data explorer dashboards
  - Desktop tools:
    - Material LCA screening tool
    - Builldings grasshopper tool

  - Python API
    - Impact data
    - Transportation
    - Electricity
    - End-of-life
    - Dynamic radiative forcing
    - Building model
    - Analysis

  - Methods, Models, and Data: the methods, models and data behind the POD|LCA Framework will be openly available on the POD|LCA Project website (URL tbd)

- Contacts:
  - [mstorabi@uw.edu](mailto:mstorabi@uw.edu)
  - [ksimonen@u.edu](mailto:ksimonen@u.edu)
  - [etel5501@uw.edu](mailto:etel5501@uw.edu) to receive project updates

# Willy Carlsen - WRI Industry Team

- Publications
  - [Carbon Accounting in Chemicals](https://www.wri.org/technical-perspectives/chemical-accounting-emissions-transparency)
  - [7 Things to Know About CCUS](https://www.wri.org/insights/carbon-capture-technology)
  - [Clean Industry Impacts from Federal Action](https://www.wri.org/update/reconciliation-budget-bill-industry-divestment?apcid=000000000000000000000000)
  - [Community Centered Industrial Decarbonization](https://www.wri.org/insights/community-centered-industry-decarbonization)

- [Recording of New York Climate Week Event - Green foundations – can reindustrialization cement a low-carbon future](https://www.climateweeknyc.org/green-foundations-can-reindustrialization-cement-low-carbon-future)
- Operates the [Forum for International Green Industry](https://www.wri.org/initiatives/industrial-decarbonization/forum-international-green-industry)
  - [FIGI Newsletter Subscription and Archive](https://www.wri.org/forum-international-green-industry-newsletter)
  - [FIGI LinkedIn Page](https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/forum-international-green-industry/posts/?feedView=all)

# Irene Dominguez - Bellona Europa

- Climate NGO in Industrial Decarbonization – works on the embodied carbon team
- The EU is working on a methodology to calculate the whole life carbon GWP of 2030 new buildings (in draft)
- Industrial Accelerator Act - Industrial policy targeting materials – cement and steel
  - Voluntary labels for cement and steel
  - Cement: [Net-Zero Pathways for European Cement - Bellona EU](https://eu.bellona.org/publication/report-net-zero-pathways-for-european-cement/)

- Upfront carbon on construction machinery
  - Report on the health impacts of the construction industry across targeted cities (in draft)
  - [From Oslo to the EU: The journey towards clean construction - Bellona EU](https://eu.bellona.org/publication/from-oslo-to-the-eu-the-journey-towards-clean-construction/)
  - Hafslund (Norwegian energy operator) created these guidelines for contractors to ease on energy planning:[Two guidelines for Zero Emission Construction Sites](https://www.klimaoslo.no/rapport/guidelines-for-zero-emission-construction-sites/)

- [Bellona Europa LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/company/bellona-europa/) – react to any relevant policy developments in real time
- [Monthly newsletter](https://bellona.us20.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=e8b672e2cb23db5364bc8dd57&id=be58cbc345)

# Victor Olgyay - RMI

- RMI[Reducing Embodied Carbon in Buildings](https://rmi.org/insight/reducing-embodied-carbon-in-buildings/)
- [RESNET 1550 Standard public comment period closed for 2nd draft](https://www.resnet.us/about/standards/hers/draft-pds-02-resnet-1550-embodied-carbon/)
  - Aiming to publish in Q1 2026

- Economics of Embodied Carbon “Part 2” report aiming for publication early 2026. Splicing feedback on what info would be useful to see.
- Benchmark study of affordable homes in India aiming for first results by the end of this year. Collecting data is a major challenge
  - RMI is shifting some work to India and other areas where there is an opportunity for higher impact in EC in construction reduction

- Actions:
  - [Third workshop to develop model policy and guideline language to integrate ec into C-PACE financing programs nationwide](https://rmi.org/event/workshop-refining-embodied-carbon-policy-language-for-c-pace/)
  - HomebuildersCAN seeking funding for a national embodied carbon benchmark study for residential buildings (single- and multi-family)
    - For any ideas for funders and sponsors, email [cmagwood@rmi.org](mailto:cmagwood@rmi.org)

- PEER – US Partnerships for Embodied Emissions Reductions Group
  - Collaboration with RMI, Columbia University, ULI, Green Market Activation, and Built Buildings Lab
  - Carbon Ledger – prioritizing the value of whole life carbon in CRE
  - Book and Claim – draft framework for buyers to engage in the environmental attribute certificate market
  - With engagement from developers, finance experts, embodied carbon leaders, and others, these initiatives aim to unlock large capital flows for ec reduction by building finance-ready carbon data layers for whole life carbon in commercial real estate

# Lee Thrasher - Georgia Ready Mixed Concrete Association (GRMCA)

- [CTAC](https://www.concretetac.com/) program aimed at improving adherence to concrete acceptance testing standards
  - Mobile app platform that CO – challenges with acceptance testing for concrete
  - A tool to use to take data and provide various support and information

- GRMCA – uses CTAC as support for sustainable design education
  - Barrier of the acceptance testing process in sustainable material education
  - Sustainable design opportunities with novel concrete materials – specifically cement – couple with testing side to break down barriers to testing of sustainable materials
  - Gathering data and case studies to aggregate across the state to identify gaps and opportunities across GA

- [ASTM Workshop](https://na.eventscloud.com/website/83703/dec2025_workshop_c01_c09/)

# Andrea Cooper - Living Future

- VP of Buildings
- Zero Carbon Pilot Program (formally launched 3 weeks ago)
  - Zero Carbon Certificate Program
  - Living Future is seeking pilot projects to utilize our new zero-carbon certification pathways, including existing buildings
  - Technical requirements: operational carbon, future refrigerants, embodied carbon, energy resilience
    - Measurement, reporting, and offset of carbon

  - Building typologies: new buildings, building renovations, interiors (existing), and existing buildings (pilot program addition)
  - Pilot eligibility criteria
    - Work directly with LF to share feedback
    - Buildings that have been in operation for 12 months or more
    - Able to report data by the end of 2027 for initial data, performance data by 2029
